Re: Help on 1st bass: Knilling or Englehardt?

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Posted by Ben on July 01, 2001 at 22:47:32:

In Reply to: Re: Help on 1st bass: Knilling or Englehardt? posted by Martin Sheridan on July 01, 2001 at 15:14:49:

: : Hello all... after 16 years of playing a fender jazz bass I'm about to make the transition to upright. I've narrowed my search to two options in my price range and local availability: a Knilling and a Englehardt s-9. I prefer the Knilling but I don't want to make a mistake when purchasing my first upright. Can anyone make a recommendation on which is better? Thanks - Jay

: >>The Knilling. Englehardt is the company that bought out Kay, and they
: still make the same mistakes. The neck is in too low, and the fingerboard curve is wrong. I'm assuming the Knilling is European made, but you ought to check. Chinese made would be ok, but be careful if it's Korean. Whichever you get, make sure it's playable. Buying it from a shop that really knows basses is your best bet. Factory set ups are usually poor; the strings come off of the nut too high and the strings are usually too high above the fingerboard because they don't know how to do it right, and lowering the action would mean that they would have to do a better job planing the fingerboard. If you're anywhere near St. Louis or Kansas City, check out KC Strings, or St. Louis Strings. One of the owners is a bass player. They also have the best prices.

I have a Enlgelhardt S-1 and I just sold my Knilling Solid carved Bucharest flat back. If the Knilling is a made of laminated wood like the Engelhardt. I would get the Engelhardt. Knilling Does not make musical instruments. Knilling imports their basses from a factory in Romania and I think some of their ply basses are from Korea. Knilling sets them up and then puts their lable on them. As does Meisel, Wm lewis, Schrotter and some other companies. The knilling had a nice clear tone to it but was way to uncomfortable to play due to the massive neck. The width at the nut was just under 1-7/8" and had a thick radius. The neck on the Engelhardts are really nice and narrow about 1-1/2" at the nut, and easy on the hand. I would compare the neck of the Engelhardt to a Fender Jazz bass and the Knilling neck to a Five string neck P-bass with only 4 strings. The string length of the Knilling was 41" and Engelhardt is 41-3/4". Engelhardts tend to be slightly larger in size than most 3/4 size basses. I am pleased with my S-1 but I am looking for a solid carved bass with a similar neck design as the Engelhardt. Good luck.

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