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Re: Kay vs Englehardt

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Posted by Rich Laird ( on April 09, 2002 at 13:13:42:

In Reply to: Kay vs Englehardt posted by Adrian Zavala on April 09, 2002 at 10:38:33:

: Hey guys,
: I currently own an old '59 Kay upright model C-1. I was wondering if anyone could give me an idea of how much it is worth. Its in fair condition but has some moderate chipping on the bottom back edges. Also it has a slight worn groove on the D note on the A string which causes it to buzz on that note sometimes. Recently set up with new bridge by lisle violin shop. Also new set of helicore strings. Im looking to sell it and purchase an englehardt ES 9 swingmaster. Im looking for any, and I mean any advice, offers, or input in general on this purchase Im contemplating. How does the ES9 sound, play, differences? Thanks in advance.- Adrian


Offhand, I'd be curious as to what you expect to get from a new Englehardt that you're not getting from your Kay. As you probably know, they are very nearly the same instrument, though there are some minor differences between the S9 and the C1 models.

If I were in your position, I would be looking at what needs to be done to get your bass in the condition that would make you happy with it. Sounds like some work needs to be done on the fingerboard - maybe you need a new one. Maybe you're looking for a different kind of sound - that could likely be accomplished with different setup, different strings, etc.. And you're investment would be limited to a few hundred bucks at the most.

The good news is that it seems like older Kays are in good demand - you might even be able to sell yours for more than you'd pay for a new Swingmaster. But you'll still have the setup costs for the Englehardt - or pay a higher price with setup included.

Unless there is something seriously wrong with your C-1, I don't see how you're going to be much better off with a Swingmaster.

Just one opinion, of course.


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