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Posted by Don on November 10, 2001 at 10:13:38:

In Reply to: Re: sad bass situation posted by Andy Seed on November 07, 2001 at 01:30:40:

: : : : : : Could you tell me what is different in the setup? i know there's nothing i can chance w/ the soundpost.. but the Bridge/strings, i can probably get my teacher to all me to adjust, if it would make THAT big of a differance
: : : : : : I need to do something, because i've sort of hit a wall, where i can't get any better, and i think it's mostly because of the instrument. I know that since i got my new electric bass, i've gotten a good deal better on that. However, i havne barley progressed at all on the accoustic in the last year or two.
: : : : : : Also, There's no way, me, or my parents could afford a decent accoustic bass.... my dad saw a $600 Carlo Robelli bass in a magazine, and he wants me to get that, but i'm sure it's a piece of garbage.

: : : : : : Thanks again,
: : : : : : Jeff Utter

: : : : : Jeff, the difference between a jazz and an orchestral bass is mostly in the strings/bridge. Jazz Strings are brighter and have a longer sustain. Also the bridge is much closer to the fingerboard. My guess is that your playing on cheap school hybrid strings. (Red Label or worse) Also, your bridge is probably to high, and to start with most school intruments are crappy anyhow. There's probably not a lot you can do about the strings. Check to make sure you have all of the right strings though. A "d" tunes to a "g" will play terribly. If this is the case, use a good string off a "dead" bass of the same size. Also, if your bridge is adjustable you could lower it. That's about all

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: Jeff ,
: Take no notice of Don's sarcastic comments - bridges ARE easy to fit providing that you have basc wood working skills , know HOW to do it and most importantly --- TAKE YOUR TIME !
: If you want to know how to do it e-mail me on "andyseed@onmail.co.uk" with your stop length ( open string length from nut to bridge , make sure that your bridge is level with the f-hole notches when you measure this ) and I'll do 2 things :-
: 1) Tell you the mysterious art of fitting a bridge.
: 2) Tell you what size bass you have , this gives you the bridge size you need .
: As I said take no notice of Don --- e-mail me with your details and I'll tell you the "secrets" - all you need is confidence in your own woodworking abilities .
: Andy .

Beautiful. I get this testy e-mail from Andy taking me to task for not e-mailing him directly with my differences. So I proceed to do just that, privately questioning his knowledge, which, so far, he proves by abundant use of capital letters and exclamation points. Now I find him publicly dismissing me. OK, Andy, have it your way.

I've already explained to you that string length alone does not determine bass size.
Now tell us all what bass size has to do with bridge dimensions.

These are the string lengths and lower bout widths on 5 of my basses:
1)40.5" 2)41.0" 3)41.5" 4)42.0" (reduced from 43.0" with false nut) 5)42.25"
A)24.5" B)25.0" C)25.5" D)26.0" E)28.0" I challenge you to match them.

You say that knowing the bass size you know the bridge size needed. I challenge you to match the bridge leg widths to EITHER bout width or string length:
121mm 122mm 123mm 127mm 144mm
Or match them to bass sizes: three 3/4, two 7/8.

While we're at it, tell us all why you can tell bass size from bridge height, as you claim, or width, as you claim.



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