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Posted by Carol Kaye on August 21, 2000 at 13:03:19:

In Reply to: Re: jazz bass posted by Carol Kaye on August 21, 2000 at 12:50:46:

Here's another data attachment I'm quoting from, something I've written earlier on the subject of education, that may be appropo here:

>>>>>As for reading music, I've always found as a long-time teacher and
writer of many tutorials, that once a person is shown the studio
musician's way of sightreading which is easy, fun, and interestingly
logical, they totally go with that. You don't need to know how to read
to play music, true, much like you don't need to know how to read and
write to speak words in language either.

But once you get past the old unworkable 1-e-an-a and trick passe ways
of learning how to read music, you'll find it's fun - you can learn and
easily also. Then you have another skill you can use for a lifetime in
bettering yourself, to say nothing of the benefit if you ever have to
read a chart in a band, on better gigs, etc. -- there is a life after
the garage-practicing and playing.

I have been noting also the lack of better rhythmic patterns for elec.
bass in colleges, universities (pretty amazed it's not better
there)...and including jazz which brings up another unfair bias against
elec. bass players out there: the evident prejudice of jazz musicians
toward the elec. bass, which is unfortunate. They (quote) equate elec.
bassists as being "all rockers" in their sounds and approaches.

Being in total demand as a jazz walking and jazz improv teacher on elec. bass, I can attest to this bias, mostly from the past but some current bias going on because they quote about the rockers who try to sit in with their unuseable rock sounds, and unkown fine walking notes, lack of long notes and with (sometimes) bad time.

Jazz musicians are disdainful about elec. bassists also as they say they don't know the standards either as a rule. Rockers mistakenly think they have to learn them "one by one" which isn't true. You just need the theory in back of all that, how to think in chordal movements, get the ears to learning to hear those kinds of chords, the movements, and cycle chordings, etc.

I find that many (if not most) of the baby-boomers who were rockers
early on, are now enjoying getting their chordal-sense together for
being able to play standards now. Out here in LA, there are multitudes
of this generational groups enjoying playing live jazz, even on elec.
bass and enjoying doing some good gigs. No, they're not getting "rich", but they're enjoying playing music, something incalculable.

That seems to be the future now am happy to report and possibly (as they gain knowledge and good sounds together, you need a deeper bottom on the bass, good approaches etc.) maybe in the future, this bias will be diminished a lot.

I've always felt that elec. bass does have an important place in fine
jazz (both walking and soloing) - not because I was a recognized jazz
guitar player on the LA scene in the 50s - and am going "back" to
resuming my jazz-playing), but the sound of the elec. bass can be a
great sound for fine you'll hear "all" the notes, not a
muffled note -- plus it's easier to "carry"....had to say that :-).
Carol Kaye

PS. The soundbytes for our new album, "Thumbs Up" with legendary Ray
Pizzi, Mitch Holder are on my website. You can hear the way the elec. bass is supposed to sound like in actual tasty jazz -- not mid-range, but full-bottom sound, yet not boomy.

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