Posted by Paul Harwood on January 10, 2001 at 08:32:51:
In Reply to: Re: Jack Casady: Carol Kaye - how do I learn to play his melodic style? posted by Carol on January 06, 2001 at 15:45:11:
: Jack Casady lists me as one of his biggest influences....actually all you need are a lot of different patterns to study, getting your versatility with tons of good statement-answer types of patterns, mostly the soul stuff.....they're all in my books and some of the books have tapes to them too.
: You don't have to have a "full theory" course to learn this stuff which I call "commerical" music (as opposed to the actual jazz walking and soloing which requires slightly and more intensive theory studies). You need a rounding out with many different kinds of patterns and you get the ideas that way. Not too many teachers know how to teach this stuff....when I accidently picked up the elec. bass to fill in for someone who didn't show up at Capitol Records late 1963 (had been a studio guitar for 5 years prior to that), no-one was creating those kinds of lines which I tho't should have been on the pop-rock-soul (R&B) types of recordings and so was free to play what I wanted.
: But written out, they can be a little intimidating...just get the Reading Practice Video Set and that quickly gets you into reading rhythms and notes very easily and with fun too. And if you don't want to do that, get the books with the tapes, you'll get the patterns just fine. Shouldn't take more than 1 year to completely learn the bass and be able to create good stuff...takes about 1-1/2 years to 2 years for the tough jazz soloing (chordal stuff, stacked triads, chord substitutes and progressions etc., you can't learn jazz -- which was formed from chords in the late 40s and 50s -- from "scales", that's a total myth -- you have to do that from chordal studies etc.). See my website for the Playing Tips (click on that at the bottom of the opening page) which will give you a lot of good ideas too...it's OK to print them out.
Howdy Carol and Mark,
Start playing acoustic guitar. An american, flat top, steel string guitar. Sounds perhaps like strange bass tips but that's my best suggestion. Classical nylon is great too, but the steel string flat top is the true ancestor of the electric bass. As the range of the guitar is a better match for singing while you're playing, it helps in getting that important connection to begin. But just start playing simple melodies to get started. When the Saints Come Marching In, for example or even simpler. The national anthem, ad jingles on tv and radio, tv show themes etc. These are all likely candidates for being built with notes of major scales. Find them on your axe from memory or record them . Try and play them with feeling. You're carrying the tune. Gotta have feeling. Next try and sing along. That's where the guitar comes in handy. None of that that switching octaves in the middle of the neck. Your voice starts, give or take a few notes, at the guitar's low open string. The acoustic guitar is also where all your guitar technique will evolve and be discovered. If you can do it on an acoustic, you can do it on anything. Learning to shape notes on an acoustic will help in playing the notes of melodies with as wide an array of feel as you discover ways to attack and play notes.
Do a bit of that and let us know how it all goes.
Read through the articles you sent. Awesome. Saw you on a Beach Boys documentary. Could not help notice how great your voice sounds. Have you ever recorded your singing?
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