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Posted by Rob Perl on January 06, 2000 at 13:08:25:

In Reply to: Re: Simandl Method posted by Paige on January 05, 2000 at 16:28:38:

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: : : : David,

: : : : I originally started out using the Simandl Method for both Upright and Electric

: : : : Bass. I found that I could do much better using one finger per fret on the Electric.

: : : : I teach quite a few students in Junior High who have small hands. While it's definitely

: : : : true that your third and fourth fingers share a tendon, there is a method of stretching this

: : : : tendon, along with the rest of your embrouchure which will allow you to easily play with one

: : : : finger per fret. All my students use this method successfully.

: : : : I would strongly urge you not to use the "three finger" (Simandl) method of fingering. It's

: : : : meant to be used with open strings on an upright bass. The Simandl Method requires much more

: : : : shifting which cause much more fret and string noise, and makes it harder to achieve fluidity.

: : : : In my years of teaching, I've yet to find a student incapable of playing one finger per fret. It's

: : : : a question of doing the proper excercises.

: : : : Good Luck,

: : : : Rob

: : : Rob:

: : : Sure wish I could have found you when I started playing 30 years ago! I went from classical to bass guitar, taking the same exercises from one to the other. The problem is that at the age of 40 I developed serious inflammatory issues in my left hand, requiring me to take lotsa pills! yuk.

: : : For me, I have found that I had to change the way I was playing below the 7th fret in order to keep playing at all. I play a long scale (35") bass - I actually have three of them - and I discovered that playing one finger one fret below the 7th fret causes me no end of grief. I regularly use stretching exercises before and after I play and throughout the day during my day job... what do you teach your students in regards to stretching? Maybe there is something I am missing, here.

: : : Regards,

: : : Paige

: : HiPaige!

: : Basically, you need to make sure your fingers are parallel to the frets and your thumb lines up with your middle finger; additionally, your thumb should stay in the center of the neck, and should be flat. This will maximize your reach.

: : The stretching excercises consist of one octave arpeggios - major, minor, dominant, and half diminshed - thses all are done with the left hand position remaining stationary. Also, we do all possible combinations of the left hand - 1234, 1324,etc.

: : on all strings with a metronome. You start slowly, then increase speed as your embrouchure widens. I caution everyone to take a break if there's any discomfort

: : in the left wrist. I also have some excercises to stretch out the tendon between the ring and fourth fingers. I've had students with tendonitis caused by years of playing with improper

: : technique, but the tendons still do stretch, and they've been able to play comfortsbly with the four finger method. There are a few other techniques we use. but I can't really show you over the net.

: : By the way, I also have 35" scale electrics - they're both 6 string basses.

: : Let me know if you're ever planning to come to Manhattan. I'll be glad to introduce you to the regimen.

: : Rob

: Might not be out of the question.... my company, PanAmSat has a teleport in New York area. Could very definitely be a possibility.

: p.s.

: what basses do you have? I have a CArvin LB76 with EMG's, an Alembic Epic 5 string fretted and an Alembic 5 string fretless.

: Paige

I have two six string MTD Basses custom made by Michael Tobias (formerly the maker Tobias Basses). The fretted is made from tulip wood with a maple burl top; the fretless is solid spalted korina wood. They both have Wenge necks and finger boards and custom Bartolini preamps with selectable

mid range boost.

I had an LB76 fretless. It was a great all purpose axe! They make them alot better now. Funny - I traded up to a Pedulla, but the Carvin sounded better!



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