El Pajaro, more on modes, please

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Posted by Anton Visser on August 30, 2000 at 04:58:37:

In Reply to: Re: Practicing Scales posted by El Pájaro on August 29, 2000 at 06:35:07:

: Yo Kyla,
: This is just my opinion (different points of view, as always, are welcome and will only enrich this discussion).
: If you already know how to play major scales all over the neck, then I'd suggest you to learn the modes rather than make your life difficult by trying to learn alternative fingerings. Strange enough, when you learn the modes you'll find it's not that difficult, since many fingerings will be practically the same as those you learnt while practicing your major scales, but still I'd rather have a solid knowledge of scales & modes all over the fingerboard and only then I'd go into alternative fingerings. It just makes a lot more sense to me.
: Just my two cents' worth. Buena suerte and keep that bass up front in the mix,

: El Pájaro

El Pajaro,

I've started getting into modes several times, but never long enough. My problem is, do you view them as their parent scale, but started on another step in the scale (e.g. do you view D dorian as C major, started on D), or do you think of them as distinctly different scales in their own right? Also, I feel that some modes are more useful than others (e.g. dorian over minor7 chords, locrian over dominant 7 chord one half step up to get all the nice tensions, etc.). What's your opinion?

Now that we're on the subject of substitution anyway, I've also been fiddling around with playing the harmonic minor scale over a dom7 chord one half step down. This will get you flat and sharp 5th and 9th. However, mentally and visually I'm still thinking melodic minor, and I always have to start from the root of the dom7 chord to find my way. Do you think it will help to practice this substitution as a separate scale (I think it's called the dom altered scale in this case).


Anton V.

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