Re: suspended animation

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Posted by kenny on September 05, 2000 at 19:12:15:

In Reply to: Re: suspended animation posted by Steve DePra on September 05, 2000 at 13:01:25:

: : : : Musical styles have changed dramatically from decade to decade for the last one hundred years. Lately, {past twenty five years} musical styles have only changed slightly every seven years or so.The industry sort of repeats or revives used styles in order to sell records. As bass players,we basically play the same as we did in the 70's. Nothing new or inovative except Jaco, and Larry Graham, who both had an overwhelming influence on bassists to say the least. We all know that the bass player is the most dominant when it comes to the "sound" or vibe that a band puts out. If you had taken Jack Casady out of the Airplane and replaced him with Jaco or Larry, it would have sounded nothing like before, thus killing the vibe. If you had replaced Phil Lesh with Larry Graham or Stanley, in the Greatful Dead, the Dead would have sounded rediculous. Most songs or hits ever produced were built on dominant bass lines, signature lines if you will. We control the groove,the vibe,the dynamics and the dancers.{provided the drummer is listening to us}If bassists continue to "slap" bongo style for another twenty five years, then music is doomed to remain in suspended animation. Since you are the dominant ones {not the lead guitarist},it is up to you to break away from the masses and sheeplike slappers,and do like Jack Bruce,Jack Casady,Jaco,Percy Jones,Phil Lesh,Eberhard Weber,Alfonso Johnson, James Jamerson,Jerry Jermott {seems like the letter "J" makes for a good bassist} ETC. ETC. in order to be unique in your tone,and harmonic approach, and thus bring a unique sound to the table and command more money. Remember you can always get one slapper to replace another since the style and tone does not vary much from one to the other.If you want job security,like the above players mentioned,then get your own style, tone,and image. Pizzicato style is far more versatile in tonal variations and harmonic possibilities.Try running scales up and down the neck slap style. As soon as you start to slap, you blow all chances of being unique,for both you and the band.I know that some of you will be foaming at the mouth by now and wish you could choke me, however it is never to late to let the bongo style slapping crutch ease out of your arsenal.Unless you prefer playing covers and weddings the rest of your career.

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: : : To be sounds to me like you are making a mountain out of a mole hill.........If all you do is slap (I don't know anyone who does)then yeah you are correct........but I don't see it as a "problem" or as something that keeps creativity down.....peace

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: : Exactly... Steve says: "I'm directing my opening opinion to those new bassists who pick up a bass for the first time and go right for the slapping shit because they have no skill, musicianship or technique to do otherwise.They think that it's cool and that style signifies a bass player. Once they get caught up in that trap,the chances for developing a new sound or style of their own is nil". Larry and Stanley were both players before they picked up a new trick for their bag.

I certainly agree with question about it. Although, some folks have given a decent example. From Blood Surgar....on Flea chilled out alomst completely on the slapping. He went from every note being slapped to maybe 1 or 2 songs per album. I think what you are talking about is sort of what 80's music did to guitar players and There were a bunch of guitar players around who could "shred" a lotta notes, but couldn't play a thing....
peace ......point well taken

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