Posted by paige on December 15, 2000 at 08:45:08:
In Reply to: Re: Finger style vs. Pick style posted by fusionman on December 15, 2000 at 00:42:09:
: : : I'm afraid Nickey is right. The greatest players use fingerstyle:
: : : Jaco Pastorius, Stanley Clarke, Victor Wooten, John Patitucci, Marcus Miller, Oteil Burbridge, even Flea that everybody likes.
: : hmmm.....
: : I have seen Victor use a pick.... and I will DEFINITELY tell you that all the other artists you mentioned will, as consummate professionals, do whatever it takes to produce the sound called for by the song they are playing. They're pros - they are seeking THE sound from their basses, and they do NOT denigrate those who achieve their sound from using a pick.
: : BTW, alot of studio players over the years and even in the present will use a pick, because of the bite and clarity its use gives to each note.
: Are you sure Vic has played with a pick, you might be mistaken with his special thumb technique. But I don't hang out with him everyday so I can't be sure.
: Well, anyway, most of my listed players haven't become (almost) legends for doing what it takes. There are players who do "what it takes" thirteen in a dozen.
: This is just my humble opinion, I admit.
: P.S. I'm afraid Jaco won't be playing with a pick and not even fingerstyle for that matter. Let's take a moment for the loss of this great mucisian.
I saw him in Nashville Tennesee, using a pick. (Only once, mind you!). He also jammed with Steve Bailey and Carol Kaye at NAMM and Played with a pick, after Carol showed him how she does it.
My comment about doing what it takes is that true pros will do whatever it takes to achieve superiority on their instrument. Many fine players (some of whom you mentioned) have used picks in the past or are doing so now - when it is required. A pick, like our fingers, is a tool, a means to an end. I use my fingers a majority of the time, but for example, when doing lounge-lizard jazz gigs, I pull out my trusty Fender Precision Special (jazz bridge pickup in addition to Pbass pickup), take out my pick, strike the strings just past the end of the fretboard, turn the treble all the way off and get a real authentic sound that is (IMO) perfect. It is soft, warm, and using the pick allows me to play very distinctly. I walk the night away and have the time of my life. I don't use a pick for everything - it's a tool in the toolbox, that's all. Some folks will never use a pick - that's cool. But many do, and I took exception to the thought that being a real musician on the bass means not using a pick.
I appreciate your response, my friend. I think we disagree on this - but so what? That's what a forum like this is for. Have a great day!
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